[ANGRY PIXEL] The Betweenlands

[ANGRY PIXEL] The Betweenlands

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[suggestion/complaint] Music Discs

SimulatorSia opened this issue ยท 5 comments

commented

I have cleared out at least 6 crag towers and 2 fortresses.
Spent hours upon hours in boats and walking though biomes in search of chests and pots. I've gotten over a hundred item scrolls and at least a couple loot hundred chests and this loot is always the same stuff I get. I haven't even gotten 1 music disc. Am I doing something wrong? I notice there are 13 of them added but I've gotten none.
This is tedious and aggravating.

Also the explorer's hat. I thought for sure while clearing out two fortresses I'd at least find one but none.

Just these
https://imgur.com/a/ESG3z

commented

If you look at the loot tables, they're only obtainable from shrines, towers, fortresses, and item scrolls. They're also one of the rarest items, having the same rarity as a ring of ascent or a ring of power.

I've cleared out at least 9 of each and still don't have them all. They're rare, yes, but you'll get them eventually.

edit: Also, using boats is horribly inefficient. If you're not in an old version, try using Harlequin Toads to get around.

commented

Rebalancing the loot tables is on our TODO list ๐Ÿ‘

commented

Maybe those items being this rare is a good idea. It feels so much more rewarding when you do find one. Or you find a hat and ring of ascent in the same shrine chest o.o

commented

... I was about to create a topic on the same matter. I have a map mod, so I could count 9 completed cragrock tower + 1 wight fortress so far, in a 3.3.10 / 3.3.11 map. I've earn the following result. 1 Disc in a fortress chest. 0 In cragrock towers... Most of the time tower's chest (when available) lend only low grade drops... like common chests loot. The best loots in a tower came from the pot loots! I've animated enough Item scroll to recover 3 disc, (probably 75.)
3 time in a row it was Frosty Disc.?!? Looted probably 16 Shrines. Let say shrines loots usually are quite good, but doesn't contain any disc, so far. So I don't want to complain but this looks like a bug.

As suggestion to fix this, maybe create a recipe or system who allow to trade rare items for items scrolls? And about disc from item scroll, 3 Frosty disc in a row, 1 week between each of them WTF??? This may require to be tested?

Edit : Nice I din't know we could complete 2 wight fortress on the same single player game ^^.
Here! to help with this topic, I've passed some stats test about item scroll drops... Here are a summary followed by more data : Note % are for comparison with %weight
http://the-betweenlands.wikia.com/wiki/Item_Scroll

Voodoo Doll = 29/200 (14,4%)
Hag Hacker = 20/200 (10.25%)
Critter Crusher = 22/200 (10.25%)
Sludge Slicer = 19/200 (10.25%)
Amulet Slot = 25/200 (10.25%)
Swift Pick = 13/200 (10.25%)
Valonite Shard = 26/200 (10.25%)
Wight Bane = 19/200 (8.2%)
Skull Mask = 14/200 (8.2%)
Angry Pebble = 7/200 (4%)
Ring of Power = 4/200 (2.6%)
Music Disc = 2/200 (1%) Beneat a Green Sky/Temple Disc Ancient

Passed twice 100 item scroll in 10 different animators...
Item Scroll 200
A)
Voodoo Doll 7
Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 4/2
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 1/3
Valonite Shard 1 (4)
Wight Bane 1
Angry Pebble 1 (29)
B)
Voodoo Doll 2
Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 3/5
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 2/2
Swift Pick 1
Wight Bane / Skull Mask 2/2
Angry Pebble 1 (4)
C)
Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 2/2
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 1/2
Valonite Shard 3 (8/3/5)
Swift Pick 3
Wight Bane / Skull Mask 2/3
Angry Pebble 2 (27/4)
D)
Voodoo Doll 1
Hag Hacker / 3
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 1/3
Valonite Shard 5 (3/5/3/6/3)
Swift Pick 3
Wight Bane / Skull Mask 2/1
Angry Pebble 1 (18)
E)
Voodoo Doll 4
Critter Crusher 2
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 4/5
Valonite Shard 2 (5/7)
Wight Bane / Skull Mask 2/1
F)
Voodoo Doll 4
Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 0/3
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 3/1
Valonite Shard 4 (8/7/6/5)
Swift Pick 1
Wight Bane / Skull Mask 1/1
Ring of Power 1

  • Music disc (Temple Disc Ancient)
    G)
    Voodoo Doll 1
    Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 1/3
    Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 1/5
    Valonite Shard 1 (7)
    Swift Pick 1
    Wight Bane / Skull Mask 3/3
  • Musci Disc (Beneat a Green Sky)
    H)
    Voodoo Doll 3
    Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 3/1
    Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 1/2
    Valonite Shard 4 (4/5/5/6)
    Wight Bane / Skull Mask 2/2
    Angry Pebble 1 (23)
    Ring of Power 1
    I)
    Voodoo Doll 4
    Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 2/2
    Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 2/2
    Valonite Shard 1 (5)
    Swift Pick 4
    Wight Bane / Skull Mask 1/1
    Ring of Power 1

J)
Voodoo Doll 3
Hag Hacker / Critter Crusher 2/2
Sludge Slicer / Amulet Slot 3/0
Valonite Shard 5 (5/5/3/3/6)
Wight Bane / Skull Mask 3/0
Angry Pebble 1 (18)
Ring of Power 1

commented

I think this problem is no longer so bad with the new loot tables.