Applied Energistics 2

Applied Energistics 2

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Meteor improvements

Technici4n opened this issue · 15 comments

commented

Opening this issue to discuss potential improvements to meteors. We will not remove them, but we are open to feedback regarding possible improvements.

A few ideas to get the discussion started: compass points to nearest chest instead of pointing to nearest sky stone block, more ae2 loot in meteors, per-player loot for servers, ...?

commented

I would also suggest that a new tag be added to skystone, since it obviously survived rentry and impact, it should be a witherproof block as well.

commented

It would be nice to have a way to force the meteors to spawn in a specific dim instead of the overworld. As an exmplae I am currently making a 1.16.5 pack that I want AE to be late game, and so would prefer to make the meteors spawn in either the end or one of the divine rpg dimensions.

commented

to be fair wither proof blocks tend to be somewhat mid game in most packs, and the same mining level as skystone.
EIO only needs dark steel and obsidian to make a witherproof block.

commented

While I get the logic, that makes it a pretty early-game witherproof block for those using default meteor spawning.

commented

Are three diamonds a stick especially mid-game though?

I dunno. I guess it very much comes down to whatever the individual pack maker is trying to achieve. Balance doesn't exist in a vacuum. (Which is why #4837 disappoints me, but I think I'm taking this a bit too far off topic, so I'll leave it at that.)

commented

perhaps just having options to be able to enable such features

commented

Is it also possible to enable / disable meteors on a Dimension World Level basis? I was always a fan of spawning them in a convenient mining dimension (see above), while leaving the Overworld untouched. (Presumably if the mining dimension uses its own biome, one could blacklist everything BUT that particular biome, but that's a bit unwieldy.)

commented

Is it in any way possible to detect if an area of blocks has never been touched since generation? You could spawn it as kind of retrogen when somebody holds the compass in it's hands but underground as option for servers

commented

We converted meteorites into structures in 1.15 or 1.16 (I don't quite remember). There might actually be a general mod for retro-genning structures that were added later, I haven't looked into it, but the API for it certainly is generic enough to do it.

My idea for the compass was to embrace the little "hack" we did for adding fluix to the meteorite (we should btw. get a cobblestony-fluix-texture for that, I think) and make the compass track fluix (which in the "lore" is high-energy) instead of the sky-stone. That would make it far easier to remove/mine the fluix and have the compass point to the next meteorite.

Alternatives:
Make it a special fluix encased goodie block that drops its contents upon being broken, instead of a chest and make that the target of the compass. That would make it trivial to implement too.

commented

So, some kind of retrogen? I don't think it's realistically possible, but wouldn't that only help for people installing the mod after some playtime anyway?

commented

my idea was to improve the situation where people join an already active server and can not find any new meteors because others already heavily explored the world
PS: i like the idea to track the quartz

commented

Opening this issue to discuss potential improvements to meteors. We will not remove them, but we are open to feedback regarding possible improvements.

This is a shame. I'm now running on 1.18.1 and there are meteors abso-f-everywhere. I would rather disable meteors and cheat in the required resources at this point because every other biome has a huge ugly hole in it. in 2018 we were promised a setting to adjust spawn rate but I do not see this option in the v10 alpha-7 config files; am i missing something?

Is there a way to reduce the meteor spawn rate?

I would also love to see smaller craters in general. I don't know why they need to be several chunks wide.. Isn't it a glorified loot chest?

commented

Is there a way to reduce the meteor spawn rate?

Currently not. It's something that could be investigated however. You can disable them in their entirety or for specific biomes though.

I would also love to see smaller craters in general. I don't know why they need to be several chunks wide.. Isn't it a glorified loot chest?

It's a glorified loot chest that is a signature feature of the mod I guess ;-)

commented

That would make it far easier to remove/mine the fluix and have the compass point to the next meteorite.

I spend so much time mining the entire meteorite only to learn there's some skystone block somewhere under the terrain that I've missed and can't find, this would be a very welcome change

commented

Going to close this for now as we will implement some of this in 1.19. If you have a specific feature request for 1.19 (only once we start releasing builds publicly!), please open a dedicated issue.