realistic / reasonable water consumption
bladedpenguin opened this issue · 7 comments
Reactors consume far more water than can be reasonably generated. It seems like its not really reasonable to use steam for anything other than putting into a turbine, because most mod's blocks that consume steam don't return water. I checked the code, and I noticed that coolant is converted to vapor in a 1:1. Might you be interested in including a more realistic expansion factor in the calculations? It would definitely improve cross mod compatibility.
I'm currently trying to build a steampunk ore processing facility. Greg's industrial grinder in particular wants 256mb/t of steam, which isn't too much steam, but it IS a huge amount of water.
If you want I could figure it out and do a pull request. Should I do this?
Please check other issues before opening new ones. I've repeatedly denied
requests to move away from 1:1 water/steam ratios.
In future updates, I will be introducing higher-heat-density coolants which
can be run into a heat exchanger to produce "high-pressure" types of steam
which represent larger amounts of energy contained in 1 mB.
I'll see about making sure the exchanger has a mode which permits the
production of multiple mB of standard steam from a single mB of water.
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:58 AM, bladedpenguin [email protected]:
Reactors consume far more water than can be reasonably generated. It seems
like its not really reasonable to use steam for anything other than putting
into a turbine, because most mod's blocks that consume steam don't return
water. I checked the code, and I noticed that coolant is converted to vapor
in a 1:1. Might you be interested in including a more realistic expansion
factor in the calculations? It would definitely improve cross mod
compatibility.I'm currently trying to build a steampunk ore processing facility. Greg's
industrial grinder in particular wants 256mb/t of steam, which isn't too
much steam, but it IS a huge amount of water.If you want I could figure it out and do a pull request. Should I do this?
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I'm sorry. I reread all the issue titles, read all the issues tagged wontfix, and I still don't see the issue of which this is a duplicate. I'd be interested in knowing your reasoning, but I'm sure you've detailed that in the other issue.
I don't suppose there's a chance of a config option?
I suppose it wouldn't be unreasonable to get radioactive supercritical steam out of a reactor. At the critical point, the expansion factor from cold water is about 3. The problem is that the temperature and energy density of that steam is WAY higher than the low density 140:1 steam that you get from railcraft. It's basically a different substance. Greg machines, as energy intensive as they are, should be sipping supercritical vapor, not guzzling down 256mb/t. I did see the roadmap though, and it looks like erogenousbeef is planning to address this with some kind of heat exchanger, which is freaking pretty cool.
Is there a discussion board or something? I feel like github issues are not necessarily the best place to have a discussion. I'd also appreciate a link to any previous discussion on this subject.
It's really difficult to balance things like steam across all mods; BR is focused on TE/MFR compatibility, and they define 1mB steam as the equivalent of 2 RF. Railcraft/Gregtech are "nice to have" but not high-priority concerns.
I don't have a discussion board, really, but I agree that Github issues aren't a great place to have a conversation. I occasionally hang out in the BigReactors IRC channel. Unfortunately, my time is limited and I don't really have time to administrate a forum. :(
Also, the related discussion was in issue #184