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Longswords and Greatswords Have No Innate Ability

CaptainMarTuuk opened this issue ยท 5 comments

commented

All Tinkers tools have an innate ability/modifier with at least 1 level. Some have multiple levels of the same upgrade (in the case of Cleavers, they have Severing at level 2), while some have multiple different upgrades (in the case of Kamas and Scythes, they each have 3 upgrades at level 1).

The Greatsword and Longsword added by this mod do not have any sort of innate upgrades, though they do each have an extra ability slot. I don't really know that the extra ability slot is in line with Tinkers balancing, since all tools start with a default 1 ability slot and the only way to get more is to upgrade them.

Also, this doesn't seem to be intended behavior, at least for the Greatsword. The Encyclopedia entry for the Greatsword claims that it's supposed to have Knockback, but it has no levels. The Longsword just says it has extra range, which isn't a Tinkers modifier/ability.

In my opinion these weapons should be changed as follows:

  1. Greatsword- 1 base level of Knockback (Tinkers modifier; this gives it about 2.5 blocks of knockback), 3 modifier slots, and 1 ability slot.
  2. Longsword- 1 base level of Parrying (Tinkers ability; this is normally only available on daggers and has one level), 2 modifier slots, and 1 ability slot.

This would let the Greatsword work as intended, without giving it a super high Knockback range as base (since most players probably wouldn't want 4.5 blocks of knockback to start with).
The Longsword would also be a powerful defensive weapon, reflecting some of its greatest strengths in the real world. It would also be the only other weapon in the game, aside from daggers, that can use the parrying ability. As an added bonus, it would pair well with the defensive capabilities of Epic Fight's Longsword weapon class.

commented

what mc version are you on?

commented

I added knockback to the greatsword at some points and removed it and forgot to update the book page. the increased range on the longsword is very much intented.

you'll be happy to know the tools have moved to its own mod as of 1.20.1 and reworked(I have yet to start the 1.20.1 version of reforged).

commented

what mc version are you on?

1.19.2 Minecraft, latest Reforged release.

commented

I added knockback to the greatsword at some points and removed it and forgot to update the book page. the increased range on the longsword is very much intented.

you'll be happy to know the tools have moved to its own mod as of 1.20.1 and reworked(I have yet to start the 1.20.1 version of reforged).

Oh really? What's the name of the mod? I'd definitely like to add it to my modpack.

commented

Tinkers Weaponry is the mod name, it's not availalble on cf/modrinth yet