TIS-3D

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Bundled Redstone Module not functional?

HyperHamster opened this issue ยท 12 comments

commented

Minecraft: 1.10.2
TIS-3D: 1.2.2.20
Project Red - Integration: 4.8.4.49
Ender IO: 3.1.192

From what I can tell this module doesn't do anything whatsoever. I initially tried interfacing with it using Ender IO's Redstone Conduits to no effect but after reading the related issue #48 it seemed it was simply an incompatability with Ender IO. I then installed Project Red - Integration in attempt to interface with this module again to no effect. Is there a mod that implements bundled redstone functionality that the Bundled Redstone Module is intended for, or does it exist only to be implemented in the future?

commented

Still alpha so might not be something you want to engage with yet, but rswires is a 1.12 work-in-progress that is mimicing the traditional rp2 style wiring.

According to this there's some plans for API adjustments, so that should probably shake out first.

commented

The only implemented bundled redstone API currently is the one in charset wires I believe. I'll look into Project Red integration (and see if the EIO one compiles by now) when I can.

commented

Wires and gates were removed from Charset essentially orphaning their API. Because of this Ender IO is no longer considering adopting it as a replacement for its temporary non-API in favor of adopting another mod's API (like Project Red's) or creating their own. I am not aware of another mod with a proper Bundled Redstone API other than Project Red (Edit: for 1.10.x and up).

commented

I considered using the Immersive Engineering API in one of my mods, but I ended up deciding against it because the author never gave it a license, so using it might be considered copyright infringement.

commented
commented

Right now, the closest thing we have to bundled redstone in minecraft 1.11+ is the redstone wire connector in Immersive Engineering.

It has slightly different semantics than the traditional bundled cable implementations, but it does appear that it can serve a similar purpose since it has the expected 16 channels, and transmits a 0 to 15 signal to receivers with a matching channel setting.

The primary semantic difference is that an IE input wire connector (as in input to the network) can only transmit on one channel at a time; swapping channels requires it to drop anything it might be transmitting on a previous channel implicitly before transmitting on the new channel.

commented

Thanks for the info, I'll look into that when I can.

commented

There is an API, but it seems to be assuming you're implementing your own wire connector rather than directly tinkering with the internal settings of one.

I did do some lightweight testing of editing the nbt of a connector and seeing how it responded, and I do believe it could be done that way, although obviously that would be ugly, brittle, and generally the wrong way to do it. ๐Ÿ˜€

Bright side to implementing your own connectable: you could conceivably be able to more-or-less mimic the semantics of bundled cables from older stuff with regards to how it works for TIS-3d.

I'm not sure you if you want to bother with that, though.

commented

I'm not seeing an API in the source here, so I don't know how difficult it would be to make use of, but Automated Redstone has some bundled-cable-like things. They support redstone signals outside of the range of 0-15, which... could be good, could be bad, could be another case of Results Are Vendor Specific.

As a personal aside, despite the polish concerns the mod looks like approximately the right pairing for TIS-3d for getting actual work done; getting data into TIS-3d is the hardest part, in my experience. Especially if you're not using another computer mod to do it.

commented

While technically lacking the bundled cabling, perhaps the infra-redstone system might work better due to how it carries values? Curse page. The wiki has some good info.

commented

SimpleLogic Wires is now supported in 1.12.2.

commented

In the latest versions there's no real built-in support for bundled redstone anymore. No immediate plans to bring it back.