Enigmatica 2: Expert - Extended

Enigmatica 2: Expert - Extended

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Is it intended to get Liquifacted Coal so hard?

DarkStas opened this issue ยท 10 comments

commented

Is it intended to get Liquifacted Coal so hard? And because of it Steel and Dark Steel.

or even not 'hard', you can't make it at all, cos there loop, if you need to craft Liquifacted Coal you need Void Crystal, but to get Void crystal you need Steel, but to get steel you need Liquifacted Coal.... There only 2 ways to get Liquifacted Coal and both of them can't be crafted...

Yes there ways to get alloys without Liquifacted Coal, but all of them need Steel..................................... Like for Steel Casing (need Steel) or Machine Frame (need Void Crystal, and to craft machine that craft Void Crystal you need Steel)

commented

is it intended

Yes.

I already on 8 lvl and can't get resources of 5 lvl...

Steel can be obtained on Level 3

commented

Liquifacted Coal so hard?
Yes, this change derived from original E2E modpack

Simpliest way to obtain Steel - throw Iron in Blast Furnace
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commented

Thanks, but this theme is more to change recipe to get more easy Liquifacted Coal, like why not change recipe for machine that give Liquifacted Coal to more common. And question about "is it intended" was to know, how author of this modpack thinks.

Like for me we need to understand what Tier is Steel (osmium(5) based on jei items for harvest), and based on it we could change craft of machines that do Liquifacted Coal to be like with Iron or Lead (3-4lvl), because I already on 8 lvl and can't get resources of 5 lvl...

Or is it intended?

commented

Steel can be obtained on Level 3

Don't know how, Like I say, on 8 lvl I could not get it. Even with your help with Blast Furnace I could not make it, because there is block based on health and I was at 14 (of 15 needed), so I played 3 more hours to unlock Blast Furnace and get to Nether and there farm nether bricks.

commented

And as for me Machine Frame (5413, Thermal Expansion) absurdly and improperly hard to craft, Its only for T2-3 machines (if count T1 is starting machine, like Ic2) but to craft this frame you need 6 (9 but 3 from same mod, but steal not easiest blocks to craft, like iron block or etc) multi craft blocks each from different mods, and worst of all you need it to craft ME controller...). And most of all it needed for like almost all another machines, it more logical to make more hard crafts for that machines but not starting machines, like for high end machines make it only in 4x4 or 6x6 crafts, there are some crafts like that.

commented

Awesome modpack (pick and synergy of mods), awesome your work to optimize work of mods and playability, but recipes is a ****. No logic in creation of hardness, no Tiering, no QoL, the only task is to randomly make game hardly. Why ME is like T12 tier, OK with machines that give ton of recourses or ton on dmg/def/life, but ME, its only task is QoL...

commented

Blast Furnace and get to Nether

You dont need Nether to build Blast Furnace.
You can get blaze powder:

  1. From Empty Rod
  2. From Cinderpearls
  3. From Dead Ferrous-Juniper leaves

Machine Frame absurdly and improperly hard to craft

Its not my idea. Since Enigmatica 2: Expert - Extended is addon for Enigmatica 2: Expert, most recipes derived from there.

commented

Could you please say where are recipes saved to delete them.

Its folder scripts/craft, but after I deleted it there are some crafts that didn't work (jei showing of craft). Even with Yet Another Recipe Conflict Fixer.
Will try create another world and check. New world not helped.
Now will try to craft it manually, to see if craft work and that jei problem. No, its not jei problem, cant be crated.
Take back scripts/craft and delete scripts/mods. Some of crafts start working, but not all, some meka crafts don't work. (tried with both of them deleted, not helped, was worse than with only mods deleted)

commented

Why ME is like T12 tier,

To encourage players use other mechanics, like Thermal Logistics. Did you try this mod already?

commented

I feel like i answered all your questions.
If there is more - feel free to write again.