Make the Miniature Wormhole Generator more useful
mamiemru opened this issue ยท 13 comments
Your GTNH Discord Username
mamie
Your Pack Version
2.7.1
Your Proposal
Hello here.
I checked the "Miniature Wormhole Generator" multi, i don't see it as an useful alternative to transfer power in other dim.
there is the "Ultimate Capacitor (UHV)" that allow wireless. unlockable in uv/uhv;
Your Goal
Make this amazing multi useful for other purposes.
Your Vision
Make this machine able to transfer energy, ME channels, fluid, items, as 1:M (one to many)
Remove the quantum ring from applied.
The multi allow to plug multiples cables, using the gui you can allow extraction or insertion from any cables in any dim.
example: you can send 2 sets of me channels and be able to retrieve them with other MWG.
example: with energy, fluids and items round robin apply by default
My vision is similar to how the "Dimensional Transceiver" from enderio works but including ME channels
Final Checklist
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- I believe this feature would make the pack better.
this multi is equivalent to a LOT of Ultimate Capacitors if u have a huge throughput. it is way more important than u think
Can you explain how the multi block in particular enables this?
this multi is equivalent to a LOT of Ultimate Capacitors if u have a huge throughput. it is way more important than u think
Can you explain how the multi block in particular enables this?
dyson era, the power needs to be transferred internationally, before wormhole, the only option is to go wireless, and build equivalent amount of lapo caps at home.
with wormhole, it is possible to centralize power to one lapo in outer space and wormhole back home. (i say possible because the wiring is a bit messy if having too many dysons.)
Edit:
This is not technically what we are talking about here though, i just wanted to remind that this thing is not a piece of junk.
I'm not against adding some more functionalities.
It seems that your wanting to get everything interdim from the mutliblock. Why not just focus on just the power transfer aspect.
Since the mutliblock is unlocked at late uhv after bio circuits it could be downtiered to early uhv by replacing the field gen with the sensor or emitter.
this multi is equivalent to a LOT of Ultimate Capacitors if u have a huge throughput. it is way more important than u think
ok you have an almost "infinite" throughput, i didnot mention it, no modification for this feature. this wasn't the purpose of the change, my proposal is to give more purpose to this multi making it more interesting even with a base full of wireless energy hatchs (for example), one multi to carry more than 1 cable of max32chan anywhere.
Removing quantum rings as you proposed is a big nerf to ae2, and basically you are placing it at Uhv... Why?? Also you can archive what you whant with p2p's, a subnet and some rings
QRing is n:m but the singularity pairing makes it 1:1 (in term of QRing pairing, not channels). Dupe a singularity and you'll see it works just fine. QRing being the go to option starting at IV and beating UHV capacitor LSC is :concern: if you accept to lose 5% during the transfer. So having the wormhole being even less interesting is bad imo. Having a better option than the QRing to allow the same thing it does but better seems to be a great idea, as more tiered interdim options the better.
You know you can also get the stargate with one singleblock wiremill :kekw:
This modpack is so huge that you can do almost everything you want, the only limitation is your imagination.
Yes you can wire some p2p aside the quantum ring, but is this behavior really what you want to do when solving this issue?
"you are placing it at uhv, why"? the same question applies to why gate AE to titanium (ev)? why can't i make my ae with steel, or alu.... to gate stuff that are powerful. making some challenge before something easier/cheaper, that's the spirit of this pack.
The quantum ring from AE, is a N:M by default, the only one slot on this multi cause this stuff to be 1:1. i also want to remove this limitation, if you check some recent updates in gtnh, some mechanics that was 1:1 has been upgraded to at least 1:N, examples: computation with cloud hatch, assembly data with wireless hatch, crib/proxy, i have heard that wireless block will be n:m in the future.
The QR is too cheap and too powerful anyway.
Im okay in making the wormhole transmit more things than energy, I just think that is a very bad idea removing the Quantum Ring itself, I see the wormhole being more powerful as transmiting channels and energy at once
I'm fine with adding more mediums to the wormhole generator. I was looking at adding beamline compat, but with Elisis' removal of beamline pipe bending I figure it wouldn't be balanced anymore so I stopped working on that.
Computation or assline data might be an interesting idea.
ME channels seems kinda pointless since QRs can already move up to 32 ME p2p channels and I'm not sure what moving that to the generator would add unless we nerf QRs (which I'm not a fan of).
Extremely high throughput item/fluid IO would be interesting, but item/fluid p2ps will always be a better option for that. Avoiding network rebuilds would be the only real benefit of the generator.