Your GTNH Discord Username

mamie

Your Pack Version

2.7.1

Your Proposal

Hey.
There is some loop that are a bit annoying to maintain during endgame.
I don't want to modify anything to those recipes, they are great until stargate-stage because some resources quantities just skyrocket for the last sprint.

Your Goal

I mainly speak about TranscendantMetal Loop, but imo we can include all loops:

• Transcendant Metal / tesseract loop
• Quantum annomaly loop
• Hypogen loop
• Ethernal loop
• Optical circuit ""loop"".

You can break almost all lop by downgrading one recipe to its lower efficient one ex: tesseract can be efficiently crafted with transcendant metal rod, but in order to break this loop you can also craft tesseract with zpm circuit and rods.

Your Vision

My vision is to provide a recipe to break each of these loop, the cost must be endgame (no cheat allowed for tiers below stargate) theses loops are fully manageable before stargate.

Here is a quick though about transcendent metal endgamecraft, the only gate is magmatter nanite.

Final Checklist

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• I believe this feature would make the pack better.

My personal thoughts on the loops highlighted:

• Transcendent/tesseract possible a little annoying, I haven't noticed any issues, don't have strong opinions here
• QA loop not at all an issue - it's designed to use unknown particle QFT + the unknown > QA DTPF recipe. The other loop is for if you don't have a passive unknown source.
• Hypogen loop? All I can think of endgame here is the hypogen > quantum > hypogen, which is easily handled since there is no middleman step and even just stocking you would have to somehow craft while leaving less than like 5kL of hypogen in storage, which is hard to do at endgame recipe scales
• I assume this is eternity loop, which like hypogen is trivially maintained due to not having an intermediate step.
• Optical circuit loop I take to mean the t3.5 memory space assembler recipe using a UV circuit, which I do find one of the most annoying recipes in my entire endgame base and vehemently despise.

Transcendent/tesseract is my main issue, i feel like AE is slow to request/put all resources needed to maintain the loop (screw, plates, rod, blocks, catalyst). when ae is not the issue, its the DPTF, he is slow, even with uxv 16K energy hatch, the yield isn't that great.
there is the convergence, but this guy just eat anything in like 2batchs then the dtpf has noting more to run so it lose discount.

Same for eternity loop, the refuel of materials to maintain qft is slow..
Everything looks too slow for the expected requirements.

For circuit, you can use bio or crystal, there is already an huge pressure on bio and crystal because they are overall way cheaper to craft to handle zpm-uv-uhv-uev tiers.

I feel like you can't scale very well loops when requesting stargate blocks. i'm probably dumb too. that can be a skill issue, on the other hand, i have reached endgame so i think i'm not an idiot. anyway this is an other debate.

For Transcendent/tesseract loop.
i have tried some tricks with the level maintainer,

my idea is to request the largest batch when he can, if not a lower batch. it worked very very well until stargate comes. i feel like in general level maintainer are not very viable in stargate-end-game. they are slow and often with a red line (even when manual crafting works)

second idea

Is to use level emitter to cut the net when there is not enough resources to maintain the loop, letting the other loop do its job and refill the resources, the level maintainer request screw, plates, blocks, rods, catalyst...
dtpf is almost every time at 0% discount, he sleep a lot this way.

My third idea today is to isolate the production of catalyst in a subnet just do it passively and supply those loops.

My passive tesseract is on strike. i should maybe give a paycheck. i don't know.

he can't craft any of these stuff like an adult.

Loops like these are designed to be passively maintained, I strongly disagree that we need simplifications for extreme endgame.

Though the issue with Optical Circuits for Tier 3.5 Memory is an oversight, so this should be addressed. I'm going to close this issue and open a new one with this simplified scope for clarity.