[Retail] DH Havoc Essence Break is never suggested
james-yin opened this issue · 8 comments
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WoW Version
Retail (Dragonflight)
Describe the Issue
DH Havoc Essence Break is never suggested
How to Reproduce
- Enter game as DH Havoc spec
- hit training dummy
- Essence Break as the base Havoc spell is never suggested
Talent Loadout
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Snapshot
Havoc; Primary - Immolation Aura(0.00), Throw Glaive(1.41), Felblade(2.83)
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It is likely that you have Recommend Movement disabled, which isn't extremely compatible with taking Tactical Retreat and Momentum in your build. The priority is written to check for Tactical Retreat before using Essence Break. I'll adjust the priority but keep in mind, if you take talents that rely on movement but leave movement disabled, the addon isn't going to give suggestions for proccing those effects.
This is a lot of effort to go to in order to break the priority. I'm not sure why using a custom priority (as you have) isn't sufficient. I don't know that I want the addon to be explicitly guiding people to play suboptimally. If you're not going to use VR/FR to buff your Essence Break, why take the talents?
This issue is back in the latest release. It might be "intentional" based on the APL but it also removes the ability to have Hekili work in a "don't recommend movement" mode which is unfortunate.
Hekili used to offer a "don't recommend movement" option for players who didn't want movement in the suggestion list. This was useful because even in the Momentum-based builds, at times movement might be undesirable but one still wants Hekili recommendations.
The 10.0.5 - 1.0.18 build removed the "don't recommend movement" option and the recommended solution is to disable Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat abilities if you don't want them recommended. The problem is that the APL has some baked-in rules that make it so if you disable FR & VR when using the most common Momentum builds, then you will NEVER see Essence Break suggested.
The issue is this part of the APL - if one takes Momentum and Tactical Retreat, it will never recommend Essence Break until after doing either a FR or a VR. Doing VR into EB is good practice but not the only valid use and effectively it is hiding EB from the suggestions.
actions+=/essence_break,if=(active_enemies>desired_targets|raid_event.adds.in>40)&!variable.waiting_for_momentum&fury>40&(cooldown.eye_beam.remains>8|buff.metamorphosis.up)&(!talent.tactical_retreat|buff.tactical_retreat.up)
I was able to work around this by modifying the APL, but would it be possible to get the "Don't recommend movement" feature back as an option? Alternatively, some build-in variable to force essence break usage if available (which is how I solved this on my side - basically added a new force_essence_break variable that I could toggle in the APL, the amended this APL line to
( active_enemies > desired_targets | raid_event.adds.in > 40 ) & ( variable.force_essence_break | ( !variable.waiting_for_momentum ) ) & fury > 40 & ( cooldown.eye_beam.remains > 8 | buff.metamorphosis.up ) & ( variable.force_essence_break | ( ! talent.tactical_retreat.enabled | buff.tactical_retreat.up ) )
There are situations where VR/FR is not practical or just deadly and causing wipes to the raid. I had though the old "not recommend movement" option was great. Or the addon can just ignore and drop off the VR/FR when it's not triggered in a few seconds. But I do understand how it's difficult to work around something that's "baked" in for the whole pipeline.
Fair enough. I totally understand if you don't feel this is generally useful. Thanks for the response.
wrt your question, my scenario is that I 100% do use VR/FR to buff my EB, but I prefer to have Hekili "not recommend movement" so it is providing the next 2-3 recommended damage abilities and handle the movement entirely on my own. When VR/FR is recommended, Hekili recommendations get hung up on the VR/FR recommendation and stop showing the other DPS abilities until I am able to use the VR/FR.
The custom priority works for me, I just prefer to not customize Hekili too much since I can then easily update.