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• I checked for an existing, open ticket for this issue and was not able to find one.
• I edited the title of this bug report (above) so that it describes the issue I am reporting.

Describe the Issue

i noticed a differrent rotation after updating to most recent update which when i check the change logs it siad sub apl was updated. Its a noticable dps decrease and mostly has you using rupture every finisher and almost never tells you to use symbols. going back on version and sure enough once sub revetered i went back to a more consistednt rotatrion and alot more dmg

How to Reproduce

check the apl update to sub

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Contact Information

sippycupz on discord

Please get a proper snapshot during the time you think the recommendation is incorrect.

Instructions: https://github.com/Hekili/hekili/wiki/Report-An-Issue#how-do-i-get-a-snapshot

Can you get one where most of your abilities aren't disabled?

I'm not able to recreate this issue, the rotation on the newest version works fine.

Try

1. Enabling all of your abilities
2. Reloading your pack

3. re-installing the addon

The rotation works fine if you're running with all abilities enabled, but there seems to be an issue when running Trickster with disabled cooldowns (but Symbols of Death enabled, as is the default) on a trash mob that should die within ~10 seconds; the APL recommends rupture/symbols of death way too late (or in this case, never Ruptures) and thus never gets a sync between Rupture and Symbols Of Death. In that case the APL feels very sluggish due to a "missing" condition for variable.maintenance (or variable.skip_rupture): If you're never using shadow dance or rupture, then symbols of death will not be recommended until it's a longer fight where rupture will be applied.

relevant snapshot info:

17.  symbols_of_death ( cds - 3 )
        The action (symbols_of_death) is usable at (4.53 + 1.00).
         - the action is ready before the current recommendation (at +1.00 vs. +10.00).
        List ( cds ) called from ( Subtlety:default:9 ) would PASS at 1.00.
        NONE
        skip_rupture #1 [Subtlety:default:4]; conditions = PASS: NONE
         - value = false: buff.shadow_dance.up[false] | ! buff.slice_and_dice.up[true] | buff.darkest_night.up[false] | (active_enemies[1.00] >= 8 & ! talent.replicating_shadows.enabled[true] & talent.unseen_blade.enabled[true])
        maintenance #1 [Subtlety:default:5]; conditions = PASS: NONE
         - value = false: ( dot.rupture.ticking[false] | variable.skip_rupture[false] ) & buff.slice_and_dice.up[true]
         - this entry's criteria FAILS: ( buff.symbols_of_death.remains[0.00] <= 3 & variable.maintenance[false] & ( ! talent.flagellation.enabled[true] | cooldown.flagellation.remains[90.00] >= 30 - 15 * ! talent.death_perception.enabled[true] & cooldown.secret_technique.remains[0.00] < 8 | ! talent.death_perception.enabled[true] ) | boss[false] & fight_remains[24.47] <= 15 )

setting the variable.skip_rupture to something like (buff.shadow_dance.up | fight_remains < 15) | ! buff.slice_and_dice.up | buff.darkest_night.up | (active_enemies >= 8 & ! talent.replicating_shadows.enabled & talent.unseen_blade.enabled) should in theory make the APL smoother but my tests didn't really work as fight_remains wasn't working properly and always stayed at 30.

I will look into some options that allow it to play better when your CDs are disabled

Fix has been submitted, thanks for the info / answers. Issue stemmed from a rupture entry, should pretty much fix the whole rotation.