What happens?

When dragonriding as a Dracthyr I can not use the mount ability Surge Forward (372608) as it appears to be overwritten by the Dracthyr racial ability of the same name (376743). I tried adding an IF for Dracthry race and using the mount spell id but that is not working as well.

What did you expect to happen instead?

Upon pressing the button, the mount would surge forward.

Did it work in a previous version of LiteMount? If so, what was the last version that worked?

I am unsure as I only recently started playing a Dracthyr.

Please do not modify anything below this line.

--- General ---

date: Wed Jun 14 02:05:31 2023
build: 10.1.0 | 50000 | Jun 9 2023 | 100100 | |
version: 10.1.0-4
locale: enUS
current profile: Default

--- Player ---

name: Altiniyn-Perenolde
class: EVOKER
level: 60
race: Dracthyr
faction: Horde
spec: 2 1468 Preservation

--- Location ---

map: The Azure Span (2024)
mapPath: The Azure Span (2024) -> Dragon Isles (1978) -> Azeroth (947) -> Cosmic (946)
instance: Dragon Isles (2444)
zoneText: The Azure Span
subZoneText: Iskaara
IsFlyableArea(): false

--- Debugging Output ---

Dispatching flow control action IF [aura:368896/368899/360954/368901]

• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [mod:alt]]
• IF test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching flow control action IF [flying]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell [mod:shift] 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action IF [race:Dracthyr]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action ELSE
• ELSE test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching rule Stop
  PreClick ok time 0.27449989318848
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
• setting action to in-combat action
  PreClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
  Dispatching flow control action IF [aura:368896/368899/360954/368901]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [mod:alt]]
• IF test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching flow control action IF [flying]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell [mod:shift] 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action IF [race:Dracthyr]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action ELSE
• ELSE test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching rule Stop
  PreClick ok time 0.24539995193481
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
• setting action to in-combat action
  Updating swim times due to MOUNT_JOURNAL_USABILITY_CHANGED.
  Updating swim times due to MOUNT_JOURNAL_USABILITY_CHANGED.
  PreClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
  Dispatching flow control action IF [aura:368896/368899/360954/368901]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [mod:alt]]
• IF test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching flow control action IF [flying]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [race:Dracthyr]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action ELSE
• ELSE test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching rule Stop
  PreClick ok time 0.32100009918213
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
• setting action to in-combat action
  PreClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
  Dispatching flow control action IF [aura:368896/368899/360954/368901]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [mod:alt]]
• IF test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching flow control action IF [flying]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [race:Dracthyr]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action ELSE
• ELSE test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching rule Stop
  PreClick ok time 0.2487998008728
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
• setting action to in-combat action
  PreClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
  Dispatching flow control action IF [aura:368896/368899/360954/368901]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [mod:alt]]
• IF test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching flow control action IF [flying]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching flow control action IF [race:Dracthyr]
• IF test is true
  Dispatching rule Spell 372608
• trying spell: 372608
  Dispatching flow control action ELSE
• ELSE test is false
  Dispatching flow control action END
  Dispatching rule Stop
  PreClick ok time 0.26380014419556
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1 (inputButton=LeftButton, isDown=false)
• setting action to in-combat action

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Did some poking around myself this morning and found that you can use "Surge Forward(Dragonriding)" and "Surge Forward(Racial) to cast and differentiate them in a macro.

Doesn't work with Litemount's SPELL command though. (I tried encapsulating with ""'s as well.) :(

Found a solution. Use the SCRIPT command.

Script "/use Surge Forward(Dragonriding)"

Thanks for taking the time to look into this. :)

Aha, the spell subtext in parens after the name. Very nice! I'll try to incorporate that in distinguishing spells given by ID number correctly.

I am super surprised that Spell Surge Forward(Dragonriding) didn't work though. I really would have expected that to work. :(

Spell [dragonriding] Surge Forward(Dragonriding) seems to work for me. Can you check again it's definitely not working? I don't understand what could be different.

It definitely doesn't work, but I'm not sure I can do anything about it. I think this is the same problem with trying to write a macro like /cast Surge Forward when there are two spells with that name. WoW just picks one. I'll have a poke at it but mostly casting spells by ID just isn't permitted by addons.

A similar issue appears to happen with the Dracthyr 'Soar' ability. I have to use SCRIPT instead of SPELL in the following code in order to get it to work as intended.

IF [aura:369536] Script [mod:shift] "/use Skyward Ascent(Racial)" Script "/use Surge Forward(Racial)" Stop END

(As an aside a 'soaring' condition, similar to 'dragonriding' would be nice-to-have but probably outside the scope of LiteMount since soaring isn't technically mount related.)

Ok. This is weird.

(1) I disabled all addons on a non-Dracthyr character.
(2) I disabled all addons except LiteMount on my Dracthyr.
(3) I then setup LiteMount with my original code:

IF [aura:368896/368899/360954/368901] IF [mod:alt] Spell Bronze Timelock Stop END IF [flying] Spell [mod:shift] Whirling Surge Spell [mod:ctrl] Aerial Halt Spell Surge Forward Stop END END

(4) Exited, restarted, and logged into the game
(5) Logged into my Dracthyr and tested dragonriding - the code was not working as intended (SurgeForward and Aerial Halt did not work).
(6) Logged out and back in as my Dracthyr and tested dragonriding - the code was still not working as intended.
(7) Logged out and then logged in with my non-Dracthyr character and then logged out.
(8) Logged out and then logged in as my Dracthyr and tested dragonriding and ... the code worked as intended?!

I'm completely confused.

(9) Setup LiteMount with the following code:

IF [dragonriding] IF [mod:alt] Spell Bronze Timelock Stop END IF [flying] Spell [mod:shift] Whirling Surge Script [mod:ctrl] "/use Aerial Halt(Dragonriding)" Script "/use Surge Forward(Dragonriding)" Stop END END

(10) Exited, restarted, and logged into the game
(11) Logged into my Dracthyr and tested dragonriding - the code worked as intended.
(12) Just to see I then setup LiteMount with the original code again and tested dragonriding - the code didn't work as intended.
(13) I then changed "Spell Surge Forward" to "Spell [dragonriding] Surge Forward(Dragonriding)" and tested dxragonriding - the code didn't work as intended.
(14) I reset LiteMount back to the new code and tested dragonriding - the code worked as intended.

(15) Logged out and then logged in as non-Dracthyr character.
(16) Enabled LiteMount and then set it to use the original code.
(17) Exited, restarted, and logged into the game
(18) Logged into my non-Dracthyr and tested dragonriding - the code worked
(19) Logged out and then logged in as my Dracthyr and tested dragonriding - the code

So the issue only appears when you first log in as a Dracthyr. If you log into a non-Dracthyr and then log into a Dracthyr later the issue doesn't appear. If you use the SCRIPT commands instead of SPELL commands the issue doesn't appear at all no matter which character you log in as first.

Like I said it's weird.

P.S. Sorry for length of this comment. Wanted to be thorough. :)

First, thank you so much for your incredible testing. That is amazing.

That behaviour is super weird, and the only thing I can conclude is that it's a Blizzard bug. I suspect it's probably related to one of these known WoW Evoker issues:

Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs#354
Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs#437

There seem to be various longstanding bugs with Evoker spells, and there are also issues with SecureActionButton (Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs#317). It's possible the workaround for that is affecting this too, hard to say.

I think I'll probably just leave it for now, since anything I do will probably not help and possibly make things worse. I'm going to leave this open so I can check up on it every now and then to see if there's any change.

I don't think I'm likely to add [soaring] but you can use [aura:Soar] rather than the spell ID to make your condition more obvious.

There is (I hope) a general fix for this in LiteMount 10.1.0-5 by using the bracketed subtext when casting spells by name.

This should allow Spell 372608 to work properly, even if using the name doesn't. I think Spell Surge Forward(Dragonriding) should also work, but I'm less confident of that since there seem to be Blizzard bugs involved.