What happens?

I get the dreaded error message, "You can't mount here" when trying to use my Sky Golem in any Advanced Options scripts.

The script that I have set at the moment that this bug report log was captured is simply

Mount Sky Golem

(I've also tried Mount id:522 with the same effect) And yes, I do have a Sky Golem, and I can mount it in the exact same spot through the Blizzard mount panel.

What did you expect to happen instead?

My character mounts the Sky Golem.

Did it work in a previous version of LiteMount? If so, what was the last version that worked?

I don't know, I'm only playing around with customizing the Advanced Options just now.

Please do not modify anything below this line.

--- General ---

date: Mon May 3 00:12:44 2021
version: 9.0.33
locale: enUS
current profile: Default

--- Player ---

name: Jgor-Spirestone
class: DRUID
level: 60
race: Tauren
faction: Horde
spec: 3 104 Guardian

--- Location ---

map: The Dreamgrove (747)
mapPath: The Dreamgrove (747) -> Val'sharah (641) -> Broken Isles (619) -> Azeroth (947) -> Cosmic (946)
instance: 1220
zoneText: The Dreamgrove
subZoneText:
IsFlyableArea(): true

--- Debugging Output ---

VersionUpgrade: 5

• checking profile: Default
• checking profile: DK
  Initializing LiteMount v9.0.33, debugging enabled.
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1
• setting action to in-combat action
  PostClick handler called on LM_B2
• setting action to in-combat action
  PostClick handler called on LM_B3
• setting action to in-combat action
  PostClick handler called on LM_B4
• setting action to in-combat action
  Updating location due to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD.
  PreClick handler called on LM_B1
  Dispatching action Mount Sky Golem
• filters: Sky Golem
• PriorityRandom n=1, t=0.000, c=0.000
  Dispatching action
• setting action to can't mount now
  PostClick handler called on LM_B1

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Final update on this.

With the beta releases and the coming release with the Rules and Groups functions, I have implemented your proposal and the Mount action ignores priority as well as ignoring what is the best mount.

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain your thinking, it has helped me enormously and I appreciate it incredibly.

You will need to set the priority of the Sky Golem to something other than 0 (disabled) before LiteMount will ever activate it.

Happy adventuring, X.

sigh. I tried to check all the obvious things... I whittled the script down and down and down until I was just left with Mount Sky Golem and it still wasn't working, and I thought I had covered all the bases. Go figure.

Thanks for the classy response, and the quickness of the reply.

BTW, LiteMount is so awesome. Bless you for working on it. <3

I wonder if you could make the addon, or the error text more helpful in cases like this? If I'm trying to mount a given mount specifically (by name, or by id) and its priority is 0, I probably still want to mount it. Maybe the logic could be to mount it despite its priority. I'd understand if you don't want to do that. But maybe you could at least print a warning to chat frame saying something like, "Tried to explicitly use a disabled mount". I know that is its own can of worms what with translation and all. But it could be nice to have a little more help from the addon in the game for obvious problems like mine.

I agree there could be better error handling, though exactly what is an error is hard to pin down. People (surprisingly to me) tend to really get angry when LiteMount prints things into their chat window. So if people are relying on the priority behaviour and I suddenly start warning about it, I'm going to have to deal with angry people which never makes me happy.

In general priority 0 is a big problem. Some people really want it, but a lot of people don't understand that it means "I never want to see this mount ever" (I guess I expected that the fact it says "disable" would give this away, but I was wrong.)

I would really like to understand how I have gotten this wrong. What is it you were trying to do when you set some mounts to priority 0?

Some people really want it, but a lot of people don't understand that it means "I never want to see this mount ever"

I don't like the appearance of the Grand Expedition Yak, or the Sandstone Drake, or the Sky Golem. I never want to see them ... in random rotation for normal "commuting" needs. I want to see the visually impressive mounts and the ones that require lots of time or lots of effort to earn, to show them off, or at least to evoke fond memories when traveling. But I would still like access to them via other mechanisms than the "Random mount" functionality of LiteMount.

For what it's worth, I think this only ended up being a problem for me because I had set the priority to 0 previously, as I don't like the appearance of my Sky Golem. (And my main is not an herbalist, so I'm only getting around to playing around with stuff kind of late into the game) So now that I understand what priority 0 really means, I can achieve the same thing I originally wanted by simply unchecking the boxes for "FLY" or "RUN" for the mounts I don't want to appear in random rotation, but keep their priority at 1. But that begs the question ... wouldn't unchecking FLY or RUN mean, "I never want to see this mount ever when I need something that can FLY or RUN"? I think the interplay between the checkboxes and the priority is a bit confusing.

It does say "0 - Disable", but only when you mouse over the priority. I never really paid much attention to that tooltip, it's a numerical priority system, it seemed self-explanatory. (ha!) To me 0 priority simply meant, as I kind of explained above, that it wouldn't have any weight in random selection.

Again, great job with this addon. I don't want to be critical at all, this ticket was user-error, pure and simple, and I really appreciate your time and effort. <3 I don't really know if there's anything else to add to this discussion; feel free to close it, unless you have any other questions to help you as you work on the mount group tabs feature I've seen mentioned elsewhere.