Entity Culling Fabric/Forge

Entity Culling Fabric/Forge

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Licence issue

UntalentedAmateur opened this issue ยท 14 comments

commented

The way you have described the authorised distribution for EntityCulling in your Readme.md seems to now be broken with your mod being uploaded (by you) onto Modrinth. With the explanatory text in your licencing, it seems that we can not legitimately download and use the mod from Modrinth (or build from source here on Github - both places where you have uploaded the content).

Can you please revise the licence so that it is a little clearer about being able to download (and include in modpacks) from sites where you have uploaded it?

commented

The license is ARR(All Rights reserved) with more rights or alternatively MIT but with the redistribution rights removed. Nothing in there stops you from downloading it from Modrinth. The part in the readme is just to clarify that other terms of service interact with it(Be it Github allowing forks, CurseForge modpacks, or Modrinth downloads). In the case of Modrinth, that's https://modrinth.com/legal/terms . Also yes you can build it from the source here from Github, the license explicitly allows that.

commented

Can you please revise the licence so that it is a little clearer about being able to download (and include in modpacks) from sites where you have uploaded it?

You can always download mods from Modrinth/curseforge, that's in their TOS. You can always clone code from Github, that's their TOS. The only restriction on usage from the license is to now allow commercial Modpacks/Clients(in that case contact me first, then I can give an approval). You can thank the Lunar client for just copy pasting my mods, that's the reason it's no longer simple open-source(MIT).

commented

Hi tr7zw,

Thanks for the clarification. Seeing it as MIT with redistribution removed makes a lot more sense. I'm working my way through my mods at the moment and checking their licences to see how to manage them. I got your mod through Modrinth, but the wording and explanation text didn't make a lot of sense and I wasn't sure how it applied.

Great mod, btw!

commented

@tr7zw Please use the GPLv3 with Minecraft linking exception. I can explain:

  • The licence allows redistribution and commercial use.
  • However, ALL redistributed, modified or not, copies must use the same licence and be open source.
  • Additionally, the licence forbids any software from integrating this software unless it uses GPLv3 as well.
  • However, the Minecraft linking exception allows usage with Minecraft, even if it isn't open-source.

So, it would:

  • Allow permissive usage for normal users.
  • Forbid clients from using it since clients are never open-source.

Additionally, the current licence is a bit unclear. Do you intend to completely ban commercial use? The licence currently reads that we cannot use the mod for any commercial use, including using it in YouTube videos with monetisation.

commented

The current license is basically ARR with some added freedoms. No, it doesn't prevent the usage in YouTube videos, otherwise you couldn't use any ARR mods or no-commercial licenced mods for videos. If I were to revisit the topic of licence again, I'd probably just use ARR and call it a day.

commented

Well they technically are, this looks a bit misleading.

commented

Please do use ARR if you want to look open source, but in reality grant no freedoms.

commented

Never said these mods are open source? The current license isn't open source by definition.

commented

Right now this is not a problem, but do make sure to use real free software licences when you want someone to depend on your mods and trust you.

commented

I'm not using it in my optimisation modpack because I want the freedom to distribute it even where your mods are not posted.

commented

But I don't want to hurt you. Go ahead and keep making fake open-source mods in which I have no trust.

commented

Well they technically are, this looks a bit misleading.

They are not. The license doesn't allow anyone to redistribute the mods.

commented

Just so I tell you why this strategy is bad before I leave. Many Bukkit plugins (especially) have survived because someone took over. With nonfree software this is not possible.

Open source means visible source. Your mods are open source but not free software. That's my problem

commented

I know about this, especially in the bukkit space, I have been around hmod/spigot etc for over 10 years. When I stop doing mc stuff, I will make everything open source. But right I would just harm myself by doing that.

Also no, open source does in fact not mean visible source. You should look up what open source means. Code being on github does not mean something is open source.